My take on things...

I wasn't going to even bother here but there are some things to be said

Firstly, I have to agree 100% with Mav's post. Likewise, I received no warnings, no PMs, nothing about this until I suddenly found that I couldn't log in anymore.

Much was made in the last couple of days about warnings but once again it seems three people have been banned permanently without warning. It's no secret I've been critical of the admin team over there - TBH it has been that way ever since I was "invited" to resign as an admin after all I did for the forum

Secondly, the reason I wasn't going to bother here but wanted to set the record straight; the other forum says that I was granted such an elevated status here was because it was my wish to leave. This is in fact more of Hobo's bullshit. Only earlier today I had posted that I had no desire to leave as the good on 606v2 outweighed the bad. However, twice now in two days the admins had made good efforts towards bridge building (first with the consultative PM group which although some people disagreed, was meant with good intent, and then with the appointment of a new mod that we all could respect). In both cases the good work was undone with either provocative or patronising messages from the admins (usually Hobo, but occasionally other admins)

As to this place - as someone else said, they've given us the keys to the house but not the booze cupboard. I have no intention of contributing here except to discuss the events of today. Hobo and his buddies seem to think they have done us a favour (actually I don't believe that for a moment - they are just taking the piss). They think that by setting up a forum for us, they can leave us slag them off, while still retaining control. No admin passwords have been divulged and all Merc and I can do is "mod" the forum.

I have no real desire to be a "leader" in any breakout - but the fact is I do have the knowledge and web experience to set up an alternative forum - it's not that difficult and to be honest I'd rather someone else did it. If however no one else wants to or has the time to, I am prepared to create our own alternative forum. Some will stay on the old place - some may take up dual membership; from what I've read so far there are enough people disillusioned with v2 that a new forum may be viable - but this place IS NOT IT.

I still want a place to discuss golf. V2 appears to be not an option for me, despite the fact I broke no rules. If others are happy to stick with V2 then fine - I'll continue to email grumps with my eclectic scores and I'd hope to be informed of any upcoming meetups in my area. If someone wants to set up another golf forum, or (if necessary) wants me to set one up, then I'm all for it.

But at risk of repeating myself, this place should NOT be an option - the clowns from V2 still hold the keys and I won't be part of that - we can't even change the ghastly colour scheme!

I'd like to think Hero was reading this place too - he was the founder of V2 and basically one of the good guys though he got to the point where he couldn't deal with the shit that was going on there (who can blame him?) and appointed the Hobonater and Why-No-Man as his trusty lieutenants. Both are power mad pricks and don't have a clue what they are doing. I'd appeal to Hero to tighten the leash on his puppydogs but I've made that appeal in the past and he really can't be arsed.

So let's hear what people want. This place should be left to die a death - but not before we use it to decide what people want. If most are happy to stay at the old place, then I'm fine with that. If we want a place of our own, and can drag enough people from V2 to make that place a ghost town, then we should go it alone

I'd like to hear what people want

LondonJonnyO wrote:The question to me is one of migration to a new location... i've been on golf monthly but hardly to the level I would post on 606 or v2... or the construction of a new 'home'.

I admit that I like the general posters I've built up both online and offline relationships with but I also like the new people aspect of a maintained forum.

So if pushed I would recommend that people move to a new home... but where is a different question that I have failed to answer during my time away from you all.

Mary wrote:Don't feel that I'm particularly entitled to an opinion, as I don't really have any history with the original forum, and, as some of you know, I am also a regular poster elsewhere.

If you do decide to set up something else, I would like to be part of it. :)

LondonJonnyO wrote:

Mary wrote:Don't feel that I'm particularly entitled to an opinion, as I don't really have any history with the original forum, and, as some of you know, I am also a regular poster elsewhere.

If you do decide to set up something else, I would like to be part of it. :)

I believe that elsewhere has included Golf Monthly at one point? yes?

Doc wrote:Mary, as you know a few of us logged into GM yesterday, but my experience wasn't that good. Seemed welcoming enough, but maybe the layout isn't that good, I don't know?

Doc wrote:Mary, as you know a few of us logged into GM yesterday, but my experience wasn't that good. Seemed welcoming enough, but maybe the layout isn't that good, I don't know?

Mary wrote:Don't feel that I'm particularly entitled to an opinion, as I don't really have any history with the original forum, and, as some of you know, I am also a regular poster elsewhere.

If you do decide to set up something else, I would like to be part of it. :)

Mary wrote:

Doc wrote:Mary, as you know a few of us logged into GM yesterday, but my experience wasn't that good. Seemed welcoming enough, but maybe the layout isn't that good, I don't know?

Yes, they re-vamped and changed the lay-out a couple of months ago. A lot of the regulars (including me) didn't like it, but I guess that you stick with the people you know, so not that many actually left in the end.